Please note first off I am not an employee of IKEA nor affiliated or paid by them in any way. Quite some time ago the comment section on this entry has turned into an informal Q/A help desk of sorts.  Although I try to answer in a timely fashion, the notifications for new comments seem to keep ending up in my junk folder so sometimes it can be quite a while before I see and get to answering them. I never intended for this to be an informal help desk but I will continue to work at providing my advice on your questions when I am not out trying to make a living.

Whether you are buying a simple Malm Ikea bed or Hemnes, or something fancier like Oppdal, Brimnes, Mandal or Fjell drawer/storage beds, you NEED to buy SLATS for them.

Ignore, ridicule or laugh at the Ikea sales people if they tell you otherwise. Well, maybe just imagine doing that. (Shame on those Ikea employees who through their ignorance of ikea products or perhaps mean spiritedness advise some of my customers that they don’t need them.)

I don’t understand why Ikea thinks that you can get away with not using some sort of additional support on their beds besides the metal side rails and Skorva metal mid beam. Doesn’t matter if you have a boxspring either. I have witnessed what happens when people forgo them. There are plenty of other assemblers around the country that will back me up on this issue.

That said, here’s what you need to know:

  1. Besides your bed, you will need to buy a SKORVA metal midbeam support which is sold separately.I’ve had customers not have one of those because no one told them at the Ikea store that they need them.
  2. Your wooden slats that will keep your mattress and/or boxspring from falling off one of the side rails and damaging the frame (and drawers.)

WOODEN SLAT choices:

LADE – cheapest and ‘good enough’ flat pine boards. $40 for queen size.

LUROY – Nice, curved birch wood boards. $60 for queen size.

LAXBY – Sure, they look cool/ sound cool but only buy these if you are masochistic. They are expensive and I will charge $100 if I am feeling foolish enough to take them on as I did once. They take about 2 hours or so along with  some of one’s sanity to assemble.  Money would be much better spent on upgrading your mattress if you feel the urge.

Often times it’s just not very convenient to get Ikea slats after the fact.

Ikea custom fixes for not having your slats on hand would be plywood sheets cut to fit or 1×4 or 1×6 boards cut to fit across the frame.

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  1. Chris
    March 15, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    I bought a malm king frame and forgot to grab the skorva center beam support. I am pretty certain that I do not need the center beam because I purchased a purple mattress with a foundation. Before I start putting the bed together though, I am curious if I need the cross beam supports and the mid beam support. I know that the cross supports are to help keep the bed squared, so think they are important… just don’t think the cross beam is important for the build.

    Thank in advance

    • Carter
      March 15, 2020 at 5:38 pm

      The side rails on ikea beds are too natrow to keep a box spring from falling off one side or the other. Also the additional points of support on the footboard and headboard with the skirva beam in place helps distribute the overall weight of the bedload.
      Refardless of what mattress brand and setup you go with you need the $10 skorva beam. Either rhat or a more expensive time consuming ikea ‘hack’ that will accomplish a similar fix

      • Chris
        March 15, 2020 at 8:10 pm

        The bed will be on the foundation, as long as it fits in the area, otherwise I’m going to have a big problem… lol

  2. Beverly
    May 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Any suggestions or comments about putting together the Ikea Gjora Birch Bed frame? Also with a queen bed that high wouldn’t the Logset slats which are closer together (an look like they have more give) be a wiser choice even if they are more work than the Luroy slats? Thanks in advance for any insights….I haven’t made the move yet and it’s alot of money for this girl.

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:01 pm

      i actually haven’t built that bed yet. The height of the bed doesn’t have a bearing on the effect of the slats – maybe if you look up underneath the bed a lot, the visual may be more appealing? The lonset slats have gotten quite a bit easier to assemble – relatively speaking compared to the nightmare they were 4-5 years back in their previous incarnation.

    • Noora
      May 31, 2019 at 10:41 am

      Hello, is it possible to use Ikea bed slats for a non-Ikea bed? I purchased a queen sized alchemy CB2 bed just a few years ago and the wooden slats were moldy so I had to throw them out–along with the connectors. CB2 has not been helpful at all about how to replace these, and after a long drawn out conversation with customer service it appears that the only solution is to purchase ‘part 2’ of the bed which will put me back $300 and will also give me all of the metal pieces from the bottom of the bed when I only need the wooden slats. I was wondering whether it might be possible to repurpose ikea wooden slats instead.. Any ideas would be much appreciated!

      • Carter
        June 2, 2019 at 2:11 pm

        Yes there’s nothing really specual about the ikea slats – so long as here is a center beam for them to rest on- to keep them from moving too much some minor modifications to the cb frame could he done but not absolutely necessary. Another option if there is no center beam running the length of the bed is to but some 1×4 or 1×6 pine boards from lowes or home depot and cut them to length to fit across the frame side to side. Adding a center post to the underside of each plank cut from a 2×2 or even 2×4 would help avoid the boards from sagging in the center. These would be attached with a simple wood screw (2-3” screw) centered on the post

  3. Janet
    April 28, 2018 at 9:17 am

    Can I add a Sultan Support leg to a Skorva center support beam? How??

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:02 pm

      you could, but why? you would need to drill 4 holes on the skorva where you want to put the leg. Then attach them with machine screws, nuts and washers (4-4-8)
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      • Caroline
        November 18, 2019 at 12:06 pm

        We’ll soon be buying a 15″ king spring mattress and a Tyssedal bed. We’re trying to decide whether to get the low profile 5″ box springs – leaning towards yes. I know we need slats on top of the Tyssedal rails and a Skorva beam. But the mattress store also said we’d need a center support leg, such as the Sultan. Do you agree it needs a Sultan? What do you think about low profile box springs? I’m ok with the top of our mattress being ~30″ off the ground, which is about where it would be, I think.

        • Carter
          November 19, 2019 at 10:26 pm

          I think a king bed would benefit from center support for sure. I cant really comment on the low profile springs as i am not familiar with them

          • Caroline
            November 26, 2019 at 9:03 am

            Thank you, Carter. Do you think one Sultan leg (attached to the Skorva beam) is enough or would two be significantly better?

          • Carter
            November 26, 2019 at 10:22 am

            had a chance to look at the tyssedal bed model – you actually shouldn’t need a sultan leg for that. Some models don’t use a skorva beam and instead use the adjustable sultan supports. There’s no place to attach the sultan support to a skorva beam without drilling into the metal beam – and then you would need to use small bolt/washer/nut combo to secure it to the beam and not the screws it comes with – a true ikea hack.

          • Caroline
            November 26, 2019 at 12:31 pm

            When I showed the Tyssedal bed to the folks at the mattress store (Original Mattress Factory), they recommended slats (I will do Luroy), as well as support leg(s). I know we’ll need to drill holes in the Skorva beam to do this. My husband said he has a tool that should make it easy (fingers crossed). Sounds as if we’ll need to buy bolts/washers/nuts, too. I’m still trying to decide whether to attach one or two Sultan legs? Do you think adding leg(s) will negatively impact anything?

          • Carter
            November 27, 2019 at 3:29 am

            of course you would need slats for the bed. Unless the bed is going to bear an unusual amount of weight, I would think if you are going to add center support, one leg should suffice.

          • Caroline
            November 27, 2019 at 9:52 am

            Thanks so much for your perspective.

  4. Charles
    April 26, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    I was lucky stumbling onto this posting thread! I bought an Ikea Malm full size bed some years ago and noticed a problem that wasn’t mentioned here. I use a mattress and box spring and last fall the mattress and box spring started slanting to the right side of the bed where I mostly sleep. I noticed on removal that 2 of the cross braces were twisted and loose.

    My question is why are the “side rails” nothing more than an inch or so wide? The box spring keeps slipping off! Wouldn’t a logical approach be to make it wider in manufacturing? Balancing on one steel rail and a thin lip of a rail is really lame in my view. Any comments here Carter?

    I decided to purchase the Luroy bed slats today as the problem from last fall has happened again. The slats are increasingly looking to be an essential for this bed in my opinion whether with a box spring or not. If the whole assembly with the slats sits too high then I may try ditching the box spring. I lament the much bigger and higher mattresses and box springs of recent years.

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:03 pm

      I’ve been so busy and my previous host had messed up my website somehow… I am in the process of transferring to a new host and revamping the website as the current look is crap imo. Now, to address your question. I totally agree with your observation that the side rails are stupid narrow. I think they do that for a number of reasons – to save on raw material cost, but primarily i think it’s because they expect people to ditch their boxsprings (except those few that love the princess and the pea style beds) and just buy a set of their wooden slats. Most of my customers typically ditch their boxspring if using an existing mattress… a lot of others just decided to buy an ikea mattress or other mattress along with slats of their choice…. There was one time where the customer didn’t buy slats, and only had a mattress – so i had to go to the hardware store and buy some 1×6 boards and cut them down to fit as makeshift slats.
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  5. Prashanthi
    March 5, 2018 at 2:51 am

    Hi, Does ikea canada sell cross brace for queen storage bed separately? As 2 of the 4 are bent and broken.

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:05 pm

      i have no idea… never been to Canada. But I don’t recall seeing those available as separate parts to purchase – best bet is to complain at the customer service counter – i can’t imagine they don’t have a bunch of spares in the back storeroom as that isn’t an uncommon problem

  6. Sara
    February 25, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    Hi… we have a Serta 14 inch mattress which we put on our Malm bed without a box spring. The Malm bed is complete with skorva centre beam and lonset slats… my question is, our mattress warranty is kinda vague and it requires centre support legs to extend all the way to the floor. Is that a necessity? Has anyone had to purchase legs separately and attach to their Skorva? Is it even possible to attach legs to Skorva? I am not sure if i understand the mattress warranty terms clearly. Please share your experience.

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:05 pm

      Hi… we have a Serta 14 inch mattress which we put on our Malm bed without a box spring. The Malm bed is complete with skorva centre beam and lonset slats… my question is, our mattress warranty is kinda vague and it requires centre support legs to extend all the way to the floor. Is that a necessity? Has anyone had to purchase legs separately and attach to their Skorva? Is it even possible to attach legs to Skorva? I am not sure if i understand the mattress warranty terms clearly. Please share your experience.

  7. Roberta Post
    January 15, 2018 at 10:39 am

    Dear Carter,
    Would it be ok to use skorva midbeam under and luroy slats over the existing planks of a brand x wooden bed that keeps dropping its wooden midbeam on legs?!!!
    Thank you, enjoying your site,

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:08 pm

      Well, you should be able to modify the base to do that ikea hack – you just have to consider how you are going to attach the skorva to the head and foot boards as the brackets that it normally sits on only come with the ikea bed frames

  8. Steve wade
    December 12, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    Trying to decide between Queen Hemnes or Malm. (“Real wood” vs veneer over particle board. ) Do you have any comment on relative quality? I have noted a number of comments about the Hemnes falling apart or squeaking over time. Also I get from your pr3vious comments to simply go with the cheapest slats? I will be getting a memory foam mattress.

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:08 pm

      the fancy slats have gotten a bit easier to assemble compared to the nightmare they were 5 years ago. But I still think if money is an issue, put the extra money into a better mattress over the better slats. To be completely honest, Ikea is what it is. Sure, hemnes is mostly all wood, but it’s not like it’s oak or mahogany or teak or anything high quality/ strong AF. Beds tend to start squeaking for a number of reasons – fasteners/screws weren’t tightened down enough – or maybe too much and stripped. Maybe larger people practiced acrobatic enthusiastic sex on the bed, etc., etc. you get the idea. I think that if you are going with an ikea bed frame, just pick the style you like rather than go for a slightly better quality. It’s like trying to choose between a hyundai and a kia or a chevy while the rich folks across the street are shopping bentleys and rolls

  9. SB
    December 7, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    I just purchased a Malm full bed with 4 storage drawers and Luroy slats. It says on the website that the midbeam is included in the package if one orders online. On a previous Malm queen, I had the same combination, but when I upgraded to a 12 inch memory foam, it was recommended that I use a bunkie board on top of the slats to support the weight of the mattress. This did add to the height. Should I do this again with my new full Malm bed with the same kind of mattress?

    • Carter
      December 18, 2018 at 11:04 pm

      a Bunkie board? what the heck is that? I have to admit, if that’s an ikea thing, i’ve never heard of it. But, based on what you are saying, it’s probably not a bad idea.

  10. Monica
    November 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Hi Carter! I’m pretty sure you haven’t answered this question yet–do all three types of currently available Ikea slatted bed bases (Luroy, Lonset, and Leirsund) require support from a midbeam if installed on a non-ikea bed frame? We have a bed frame from Wayfair, which has side rails to support slats, but not a center beam to support slats. We like the upward bend of the ikea slats more than the non-bouncy Wayfair slats, but don’t know if we would have to figure out how to install a Skorva midbeam on our Wayfair bed in order to install any of the three Ikea slats. It looks to me that the Luroy absolutely requires the midbeam, and possibly also the Lonset and Leirsund. Thanks for your advice!

    • Carter
      December 1, 2017 at 9:35 am

      unless you have a single bed and not a double/queen or king size, the slats come in sets of 2 so you need some sort of center support that’s at the same height as the side rails.

  11. Patrick
    October 29, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    THANK YOU! Needed to know the name of the LAXBY slats and was searching for an hour on trying to figure it out and found your page.

    • Carter
      December 1, 2017 at 9:35 am

      glad to help!

  12. Natalie
    October 10, 2017 at 11:26 pm

    Hi, I was wondering about the cross beams for the high Malm bed from ikea. Are they truly necessary? I have the side rails, mid beam, and slats already there. Seems like every time I lay down the cross beams squeak. I have a metal bed frame in my other home and do not use the cross beams. How likely is it that the Malm bed frame will buldge without the cross beams? Or how can I make them more sturdy?

    • Carter
      December 1, 2017 at 9:37 am

      the flimsy cross beams do serve a purpose of keeping the bed frame more or less squared, but if you are experiencing excessive squeaking you might need to take the mattress off and make sure the 3 tiny screws on each support are completely tight- if they are loose at all that’s probably where the sound is coming from/

  13. Bianca Blando
    August 13, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    Quick question. Based on the design of the Malm, does anyone have any clever ideas to convert it from a full to a queen? We are looking to upgrade to a queen size mattress but keep using our full size Malm. Thanks!

    • Carter
      December 1, 2017 at 9:38 am

      the head board and foot board are too narrow – not sure of a proper way to expand them and make them look decent…. also the slats will be too narrow for the queen – mabe check your local CL for someone getting rid of their malm if you are looking to save a few $

  14. Sarah
    August 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    I am looking at purchasing the NORDLI bed, which I would like to put a boxspring and mattress on. I like tall beds. I am worried that the boxspring will be slippy on it, as it has no sides. What does everyone think? I would be purchasing a queen, as I already have a queen boxspring and mattress.

    • Carter
      December 1, 2017 at 9:39 am

      can’t think of what they’re called, but you could try using those sticky mats – kind of like those foam drawer liners that are not exactly sticky, but grippy.

    • Meghan
      June 23, 2020 at 8:49 am

      Hi Carter!
      We are looking at purchasing a full/double grey Hemnes frame. We are also putting a Casper mattress on the bed. Casper has mentioned the slats don’t work as well with slats then they do a solid surface, like plywood. What do you suggest? Can I buy the frame and only use plywood? Should I get a Luroy? And does the Luroy come with the Center beam you’ve referred to in your posts?
      Thanks again! Great site 🙂

      • Carter
        June 23, 2020 at 9:42 am

        you ALWAYS need a center beam regardless of what direction you go with the base support – ikea hack or existing slat product. Skorva beam is always sold separately.
        the Luroy slats have more surface area but you can certainly go with a slab or two of plywood. The annoying thing with plywood is it is 4×8 or 4×4. even a full frame is a little too wide to use one. So you would need to buy 2 full sheets of plywood, measure the interior dimensions of the bed frame and then cut the 1st piece of plywood from the long edge down to about 1/4- 1/2″ shorter than the inner width of the frame – so it will drop in but not shift much. Measure from the side metal rails, not the edge of the inner wood sides as the rails protrude out a little more.
        Next, take the 2nd piece of plywood and cut it to the same width (cutting off the long edge) and then cut the other edge to fit the extra space. Other option would be to cut less off both pieces to make 2 equal rectangles.
        I would use 1/2″ 5/8″ or 3/4″ thick plywoo. 3/4 is heavy but will feel very sturdy. I’ve never gone with 1/4″ – might work, but imo, it’s a bit thin and if you ever jumped on the bed in the right spots you might hear a crack.

  15. Anne Valone
    June 18, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    Wow, I love the internet! Hopefully, you can help me out as you have done with everyone above. First, a little history… My adult daughter has a full size sleep number bed with the matching foundation which serves as the “boxspring”. It is currently connected to a headboard; however, she has so much trouble with the mattress “sliding” on the foundation. My husband and I have a king size sleep number bed that we use in an Ethan Allan bed with a headboard and footboard and have never had that slippage problem, so feel that having a footboard may solve her problem as well. Our bed sits on multiple heavy duty slats of the bed. We are considering the Ikea Hemnes Bed frame with the Luroy slats and the Skorva bar. But still feel we need to use the sleep number foundation since it is suggested on the sleep number website, unless you are using a solid platform bed. Will this work, or will she end up needing a ladder to climb into the bed? Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks in advance
    We have

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:53 pm

      I had a sleep number bed – hated it. i only had it on a regular metal bed frame and never had sliding issues with the foundation and mattress – just the hammock issue.
      probably want to stick with the foundation, but if height is an issue then instead of getting the slats, get the skorva beam, but then get 2 sheets of 9/16 or 3/4″ plywood and cut them to size to fit the bed frame. That would make your ikea bed a ‘platform’ bed by design and then you can ditch the sleep number base.

  16. Sarah
    June 15, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    What is your opinion on the MALM high bed frame with drawers? I am a heavier woman, with a heavier partner and a dog who doesn’t have any concept of personal space. With all of that in mind, I worry whether Ikea “wood” frames are sturdy enough? I love this style of bed, because I need storage.

    Thanks for your help.

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:49 pm

      I would think it should be able to hold the weight. Make sure all the screws/cams are tight. You would think they would have weight capacity specs on their furniture – other manufacturers do

  17. Allison
    May 4, 2017 at 11:41 am

    Thanks a ton!

  18. Core
    April 2, 2017 at 7:47 am

    Hi, I’m thinking of getting a MALM bed frame (140 x 200 cm). I already have a slatted bed base I bought ages ago when they used to be a single 140 x 200 cm piece, instead of two 70 x 200 cm pieces. Do you know if I’d still need a midbeam? As in, is it required for the general stability of the bed frame or just to support the slats when you have the two 70 cm wide ones?
    BTW I’m in Europe that’s the reason for the sizes.

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:46 pm

      definitely want the midbeam either way – the slats would end up bowing in the middle without the extra center support – unless you like the hammock feeling

  19. Lucy
    March 26, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    Hi! Do you know if the Hemnes under bed storage boxes will fit in a Malm bed frame? We have a Hemnes bed and drawers but I don’t like how high the frame is at the foot of the bed, so I’d like to buy a Malm frame, which appears to be lower, but I want to avoid buying the drawers again… Thank you!

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:45 pm

      not sure – did you check the ikea website for product details? they should list all the dimensions of things including the height of the drawers.

  20. Vikram
    March 7, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    We bought a brimnes bed frame with storage but m stuck on step 6 where we have to make a cross with the panels.we tried all possible ways.The screws are not getting locked on both sides.I don’t know if it is a manufacturing issue or surface.We were able to assemble all other furniture easily. Do you have any idea whether its a common problem or can be a issue with the pieces.

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      i wouldn’t be able to tell what the issue is without seeing it. I have done several of those and so far haven’t run into assembly problems

    • Dallas
      December 28, 2017 at 11:02 pm

      I am assembling one right now and having that exact issue! It seems the side pieces are slightly too long or the holes in the pieces were put slightly too far apart, so that it’s not possible to turn the ‘lock’ and secure the screw. I’m also confused about step 11 as the screws that are to be used for that step are too long -they go through the piece of wood! Let me know how you eventually got your bed frame assembled. Thanks!

  21. Esther
    February 16, 2017 at 10:46 am

    i have a quick question. I’m torn between the Leirvik because I’ve always wanted an iron bed and Tyssedal bed frame because it feels cozy. My question is, which one (in your infinite IKEA knowledge) would be a better investment as far as longevity and squeakiness

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      in my limited experience, the Tysssedal hands down

  22. Lynn
    February 6, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    Ok Carter so if I order the MALM Luroy model on line, how can I make sure the Skorva mid beam is included? I have box spring and mattress to put on these. Should be strong enough, right?

    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:43 pm

      the skorva doesn’t come with – you have to add that separately to your order

  23. Shannon Tetreault
    January 20, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Hi There,

    I am missing the screws and stoppers that are required to help keep the Luroy slats from moving. Can i buy these separately at IKEA or can I use something else.


    • Carter
      July 12, 2017 at 10:42 pm

      ikea should be able to provide those parts at the customer service desk if you go in person. Online i am not sure – seems like that would be a smart thing for ikea or a 3rd party to offer spare hardware

  24. Camille Dumont
    January 4, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    Hi there!

    kind of a urgent question here.
    We bought a double bed MALT with LONSET slats. But the long strip loading the slat together is missing in one box (2 boxs of LONSET slats because doube bed).

    Can we still built it without ??

    Thank you so much

    • Carter
      January 18, 2017 at 6:46 pm

      If I remember correctly, the long strips are meant to help keep the slats spaced evenly as well as easier to assemble.

  25. Tricia
    December 26, 2016 at 4:52 am

    I am having trouble with the huge difference of firmness on the Hemnes with Lonset. Why is it so hard? The slats are two different colors with what looks like a bit more flex at one end. If I turn the planks of Lonset will it give a bit more like my boxspring? Had to out box on last night as it got too late to assemble Lonset. Felt great but break a leg getting out of bed at night! So the question: does variegated coloring mean the Lonset will have a bit of give?

    • Carter
      January 18, 2017 at 6:45 pm

      I can’t speak from personal experience – your issue is one reason why I don’t recommend them and sticking with a more uniform basic and cheaper slat.

  26. December 3, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    Hello! I had a question regarding the Ikea Hemnes bedframe. I like the frame itself but really do not care for the wooden slats. Do you think that I could drop in a freestanding metal bedframe/mattress foundation? Not sure how well the Hemnes bedframe would hold up without the added support of the middle braces. Thanks in advance!

    • Carter
      December 16, 2016 at 12:06 pm

      If you can find a frame that fits inside of the IKEA frame then go for it

  27. Gerald
    September 19, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    Wow, what a generous and helpful website I’ve stumbled upon! Thank you in advance!

    My question is a bit different from the norm. When I finish my explanation, I’ll be asking: Could I put a Lonset bed base on top of a metal bed-frame

    (surrounded by a higher wood bed-frame).

    I recently bought a 10″ queen latex mattress. All the latex mattress manufacturers say to put them on wood slats that have gaps no larger than 3″. There are lots of slatted bed frames out there, very few of which have gaps that small, especially if you want space underneath and don’t want to pay a fortune. (I don’t like the looks of Ikea’s offerings.)

    So my solution is to buy the “Stella Metal Platform Bed Frame – Thick and Wide Slats” or the “Olee Sleep Heavy Duty Steel Slat Bed Frame T-3000” from Amazon, and to put the Lonset bed base on top of it.

    Around this “central supporting frame,” I will put my all-hardwood bed frame, which is very stable with just the four sides connected and the crossbeams and crossbeam supports removed. Because the Lonset (unlike the Luroy) seems to have a frame, it looks to me like it could just sit on top of the metal frame, and that it would be kept from sliding off by the surrounding hardwood frame. (I’ve never actually seen a Lonset or a Luroy.) (BTW, the Olee frame is 80″ x 60″ and the Stella frame is 81″ x 61″.)

    This seems like a great solution to me. Am I missing some important point or misunderstanding the Lonset frame? In other words: Should my “solution” work? Thanks very, very much for attending to this question.

  28. NC
    September 8, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    Hi.First off great review! While we were lucky enough to have a more informed employee assist us, we would have never thought, or known to buy these additional pieces on our own. We’ve just purchased a Brimnes frame with the Luroy slates, and Skorva beam. While we don’t plan on using a boxspring, I’m wondering if this will be enough support to prevent any damage I.e cracks or pressure on the drawers?

    • Carter
      September 8, 2016 at 1:19 pm

      Yes the slats should be enuf to avoid damaging or sagging into drawers unless there is a LOT of weight on the bed but then likely the slats would snap.

  29. karissa
    September 2, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    Hi, thanks for this site! 🙂 I am planning to buy the Malm High Bed 4 Drawer Storage, and putting in plyboard for a base, with an 11″ sleep number bed. Any experience?

    Do you know the depth of low rail setting to footboard height of 15″? And also the depth of high rail setting?
    I’m trying to determine how high the 11″ mattress will rise above, on the low and high positions of setting up the bed.

    Thanks very much!!

    • karissa
      September 2, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      Oh darn, full size 🙂

    • Carter
      December 16, 2016 at 12:14 pm

      There is only a few inches difference between the low and high rail attachments. Considering the height of your mattress I would go with the lower. Also since you are going with a drop in plywood base support you will want to go with 1/2″ or 3/4. Anything thinner will say and probably crack unless you reinforced it from below with makeshift ‘leg supports’. Also want to get the side cuts as close as possible so it doesn’t slip off one side of the rails one night.

  30. AR
    August 28, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    I am thinking of buying the Luroy slatted base to use on a NON-ikea bed (twin size, wooden frame) in lieu of a boxspring so that the bed will be lower for my 4 year old. (She will be moving out of a toddler bed). Will the Ikea slats fit in a non-Ikea frame? The support along the inside edge of the bedframe where the boxspring would have sat is made of wood…would you recommend I drill holes in it and place something like short dowel pieces snugly in the holes on each end, so that the ikea slats stay in place? (sort of like how the Ikea frames have plastic peices that hold the slats in place on each end?).

    • Carter
      August 28, 2016 at 1:41 pm

      I don’t see why they wouldn’t fit as bed dimensions are pretty standard. You could do the dowel thing- test fit first. Or you could also drill pilot holes though the slats on each side on the end slats and at least one midways. Then once the slats are laid down how you want them use a 1-1 1/2″ wood screw to secure them to the frame and that’ll keep them from sliding around

      • AR
        August 28, 2016 at 5:47 pm

        Yeah that sounds like a good plan – I will do some measuring first to a make sure they would fit. I’ve read in some places that Ikea beds aren’t always standard measurements but I will measure to be sure. The wood screws may be a good option if I find they are not staying in place. Thanks!

  31. anon
    August 6, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Hi i bought a bed with a drawer but one of them broke and i kinda need help 🙁 as you can see one of the circle stuff broke now its half a circle idk whats it called or where i can get it!

    • Carter
      August 6, 2016 at 1:53 pm

      it’s called a cam – you can get a replacement at customer service counter at ikea or possibly find something similar at a hardware store in the loose hardware isle

  32. Val
    August 5, 2016 at 12:55 am


    I’m looking to buy the FJell queen. What slated base should I get Luroy or Lonsett and is this the kind of bed that is easy taken apart for moving? Or are there just to many pieces to worry about ?



    • Carter
      August 6, 2016 at 1:54 pm

      all ikea beds are about the same when it comes to disassembling – you don’t necessarily have to tear it completely down, but make sure you put all the loose hardware in a container or baggie so you don’t loose parts… i’d go with the luroy as they don’t require assembly

  33. nf
    July 27, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Hi, I am looking to buy the trysil bed frame and buy a mattress from a separate store but I want to make sure that my bed frame will support the weight of my new bed. I am going with the luroy slats and my new mattress weight would be 73.5lbs a 10 inch memory foam bed. Would this be okay?

    • Carter
      August 6, 2016 at 1:53 pm

      should be fine

  34. RBS
    July 16, 2016 at 10:11 am

    Hi there.. Stumbled upon your page and wondered why haven’t I found it sooner.. So the case is I’ve bought BRIMNES king size and a simmon mattress (rather thick one, 42cm to be exact).. After a consult with the ikea guy (who said that both Luroy and Longset are pretty much similar) we decided to buy lonset for the side beam which seem sturdy enough to support our mattress.
    And the nightmare begins after we assembled and put the mattress on top of Lonset. The mattress ‘stacked’ so high that my wife needs to used something to climb over to bed. Mind that we installed the brimnes in its lowest height setting.
    After a few mods, we decided that lonset is the one causing the height problem (its 10cm/4′ thick). And we decide to let the rubber bolts supporting the lonset go.
    My question is should we buy luroy to replace the lonset or we could have opted to use plywoods (whish is less thick maybe an inch) to act as bed slats?
    Any thoughts?

    • Carter
      July 16, 2016 at 10:21 am

      I would not have gone with the fancier lonset as a good mattress doesn’t need them and a box spring totally negates the lonset features. See if u can exchange them for the Leroy or $ back. If u want to go with plywood make sure it is cut as precise as possible so you don’t have a scare one night when one side slips off the rails because it was cut just a little too narrow.

  35. K
    July 4, 2016 at 5:43 am

    Would you happen to have any opinions on the stability of my setup?

    I have the Hemnes queen bed frame with the mid-beam but don’t have Ikea slats, since I have my own slatted foundation (I vaguely remember reading from somewhere that the Ikea slats wouldn’t be necessary if I had my own). I did have challenges keeping the foundation stable since it was slightly smaller than the frame, so I just measured the difference and bought 4 footlong plywood sticks with the right measurement to stick on each corner of the bed, which centered the foundation in the frame and prevented shifting.

    That setup has worked for me for 4 years, but I am now looking to upgrade my 8″ latex mattress to a much heavier 12″ one, so I’m now rethinking my plywood stick solution and wondering if I should to add the Ikea slats to offer more support. Since the foundation is smaller, it’s only partially on the side rails (and I’m guessing most of the support is on the mid-beam). Any thoughts?

    • Carter
      July 4, 2016 at 2:34 pm

      Simplest and cheap solution would be to just spend the $40 on the basic slats

  36. Sony
    May 17, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    We purchased ikea king size malm bed,jus 1week before,half of the bed is good and other half making too much noise,sneaky sound, we called ikea they told exchange,bed frame is Good,I think slats are the problem,plz suggest some me what to do

    • Carter
      May 18, 2016 at 1:19 am

      I would switch slats and see if the noise transfers with it. If not then check all screws and nuts for tightness

  37. Miz
    May 15, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    Hi Carter, no I don’t think they still sell the laxby. It is just that I was afraid the Lönset would be as difficult to assemble as the Laxby, because you also have to assemble it slat by slat. But I think my husband took this one anyway, because it showed a bit more flexibility when pushing on the slates. Although we always chose firmness over softness for a matress, the matress I was given is VERY firm, and a bit on the hard side lol. So I thought it might help! I will keep in touch in a few months to let you know what we think about it… Thanks again for everything!! 😀

  38. Dayna
    May 15, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    We are about to purchase a queen sized FJELL bed. Do you happen to know how far off the ground the first/lowest level for the slatted bed base is? We are trying to determine how high off the ground our mattress and box spring will be sitting on top of the slatted bed base with this bed frame. We really don’t want to throw out our box spring but don’t want our bed to be ridiculously high either. Thoughts?

    • Carter
      May 15, 2016 at 6:18 pm

      Not sure exactly but the two options for height on
      Most ikea bed frames are only about 2-3″ difference. As far as height from floor I am not sure but often people find that a thick mattress and tall box spring is too high for their tastes.

  39. Miz
    May 14, 2016 at 2:32 am

    Hi, I am going to Ikea in less then 14 hours lol and I was wondering if I should buy the Luröy or the Lönset? I want the white bed metal frame (Leirvik). I don’t know if one will last longer, without the matress to ‘slope’ in the middle or on a side? And which one would make it more comfortable? Lol. I know… these are just slats. Thanks!

    • Carter
      May 14, 2016 at 6:36 am

      Either should be good. Go with your intuition. Or your budget 😀

      • Emilie
        May 14, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        Oh, I haven’t seen you wrote me back. 🙂 Thanks. So the Lonset isn’t a pain like the laxby then? Because my husband is at the store right now.. and doesn’t know yet the one to pick. Our mattress seems to have polyurethane and springs in it. My hips are sensitive when it is too hard loll I feel like I’m getting so old when I think about it! 😀

        • Carter
          May 14, 2016 at 5:06 pm

          Sorry didn’t see the right away. Didn’t know the still made the laxby – those are a pan in the ass to assemble. I wouldn’t spend the extra money on them.

  40. Sally Wilson
    April 28, 2016 at 11:28 am

    These are so interesting and helpful. However, I would prefer to purchase the FJell bed from another company instead of ikea. Is that possible??? Could you please let me know how to proceed! I have talked to them, but they are so hard to deal with and so full of misinformation. As you already know. Help! Thank you Sally

    • Carter
      April 28, 2016 at 10:16 pm

      Unless you are buying a used one, ikea is the only company that sells its brand as far as I know.

  41. Bailey
    April 23, 2016 at 9:40 am

    Hi there! My husband and I bought a MALM bed frame two years ago without the slats because we were told they were unneeded with a box spring. Recently we have noticed that one side of the bed makes tons of noise and sinks down a few inches when you get on the mattress. We pulled up our mattress and box spring and sure enough, the thin diagonal support beams coming from the center beam had become completely warped by the weight of the bed and bent downwards. My husband was able to bend them up but I’m very worried about the strength of the bed. I looked online and they do not offer the beams I am talking about for sale, so we will not be able to replace them. The nearest IKEA is 2 hours away, so before we go all the way there to buy the slats, is the frame salvageable even with the bent support rods? Thank you!

    • Carter
      April 23, 2016 at 11:43 am

      If there was no damage to the bed frame and you were able to straighten the crossbeam supports fine then you are good. IKEA is a moron for not recommending slats even with a box spring. I don’t know why they do this. Get slats on there as soon as possible – if you have nothing under your bed you can remove the center beam and cross members and just lay the box spring flat on
      The floor inside the frame until you get the slats just so you don’t have the metal cross pieces end up getting bent again.
      When it isn’t convenient for people to get slats from IKEA I recommend a hack where you just buy 1×4 or 1×6 pine boards at the hardware store and cut to fit- that is if you are at all handy with simple wood working.

  42. Dana
    April 18, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Yes thank you for this info. I’m thinking of buying the Brimnes platform bed and I have bunk bed mattress – very uncomfortable, but we can afford. Would this mattress work on top of the frame?

    Thank you,

    • Carter
      April 20, 2016 at 12:16 pm

      I am not sure what you mean. I imagine any mattress that fits will work on any ikea bed frame of similar size. If you have a queen bed frame and put a single or double mattress on it, sure, it will fit, but it will slide around as the frame is too big for teh mattress.

  43. Nichole
    December 20, 2015 at 4:25 am

    Hi! Will the slats that came with my Stora loft bed fit the same size Brimnes storage bed? I never tacked them down with the pegs, so I’m hoping I can just take them when I move and use them on the new bed.

    Thanks so much for your advice!

    • Carter
      December 16, 2016 at 12:09 pm

      I imagine they would if it’s a full to full or queen to queen frame.

  44. eljay
    December 8, 2015 at 4:13 am

    I just purchased a Fjell King Sized bed. Forget the hours putting it together…next time I pay the Ikea-ites. One question – slats again. Ikea rep said the luroy slats only work with Ikea mattresses; other brands require the lonset (more $$ of course). What’s your take?

    • Carter
      December 8, 2015 at 9:27 am

      As usual, ikea workers act like they work on commission as they are clueless on their products. Much like their website that has the most worthless search algorithm around. Any slats are fine. Heck you could even use 1x 6 boards cut to fit or sheets of plywood if you had some lying around.

  45. tia
    November 21, 2015 at 4:00 am


    I am going to buy the ikea OPPLAND bed frame, do you know if its a good bed? and can I use my box spring on the luroy bed slate that comes with the bed? I really want to keep using my box spring. if I use it would the bed feel any different?

    • Carter
      December 8, 2015 at 9:28 am

      Can’t say to the quality- that’s subjective to the individual. You can use your boxspring. It may make your bed a little higher than u r used to.

  46. Melanie
    November 13, 2015 at 7:26 am

    Just purchased the Malm. Two questions: can you forgo the headboard or will it impact the stability of the bed? If I’m using a box spring, will I be able to use the under storage drawers?

    • Carter
      November 13, 2015 at 8:38 am

      Yes u have to use the headboard as its integral to the bed. You use slats regardless of whether u use a boxspring or not

  47. Lisa
    November 9, 2015 at 1:28 am

    Hi! I’m currently building my BRIMNES bed frame with storage but it seems like the drawers are a little… Off. It slides smoothly but I feel like one side doesn’t fully hit the end of the rail and slightly sticks out on one side. Is it just me or is this normal for a BRIMNES bed frame? Also what are the slays secured by? It just seems like these plastic screws go in between the slats but nothing else. Will they fall or something when I sleeping?

    • Carter
      November 13, 2015 at 8:42 am

      Slats just lay on top. The plastic pegs just keep stretched out.
      I have found the brimnes drwaers tend to do that if everything isnt exactly true and square…both the frame and the drawers..sometimes it just doesnt seem to matter what you do. You could also use a level to see if the floor is level or lower in one area where the bed is on. That could also cause drawers to want to slide out a little

    • Carter
      December 8, 2015 at 9:31 am

      That happens sometimes- floor may be uneven, but I have noticed this myself sometimes – that or one or more drawers don’t seem to want to stay completely shut. I chalk it up to tolerances being to loose in the design.

  48. Maritess
    November 2, 2015 at 10:36 am

    Sales lady sold me a malm king with drawers. Also, a Skorva, sultan aram 1/2 king box springs, and the Sultan Hultsvik mattress. Holy cow it is so high Ii feel like I was misinformed, and sold a bed that is ridiculously too high. The headboard barely shows and I have to jump to get in bed, and my 3 lb chihuahua can’t get up or down…
    Will the luroy do?
    Or was I supposed to screw the support into the lower holes (I think there were lower holes?)
    I really hope ikea picks the box springs up at no charge.

    • Carter
      November 2, 2015 at 11:45 am

      changing the slats won’t make a difference in the height but attaching the midbeam and rails on the lower holes will drop it about 2 inches. IF you don’t like the bed so high (most people don’t) you really didn’t want the box springs – you’d think the lady was working on commission (which they aren’t) more likely just more bad sales training/lack of product knowledge

  49. November 1, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Would you happen to know the difference between the Brimnes and Brusali beds? I’m looking to get either one in the full size and can’t seem to find measurements of the drawers and actual height of the beds. I like regular height bed frames, not the low ones on the marker today.
    Quality wise, is one over the other better?

    • Carter
      November 2, 2015 at 11:46 am

      not sure if there’s really any quality difference – specs should be available online for dimensions

  50. Bonnie
    October 26, 2015 at 10:17 am

    I am heading to KIEA tonight after work to pick up a Brimnes Full bed frame with storage drawers – getting the Luroy slats and the Skorva midbrace, (based on your writings) – It is for my 15 yr old daughter. We have a full size tempurpedic/hybrid (has some coils)mattress bot no foundation – Will this work? I hate to but foundation if not necessary.


    • Carter
      October 26, 2015 at 10:36 am

      That will work

      • Bonnie
        October 26, 2015 at 12:56 pm

        Thank you

  51. Amber
    October 14, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    This is a bit off-topic, but I just bought a used twin-size Brimnes bed off craigslist and apparently some pieces are missing (grrr…). I don’t know what the heck you’d call the pieces- they’re like two metal bracket things that go between the long metal rail (whose shape is reminiscent of a cheap curtain rod) and a screw. Their item # is 130485 on the assembly instructions if that helps :p. My husband is about to divorce me over assembling this darn thing and before we get too carried away with it I’m trying to find out if those pieces are vital and if so do you know of any way to get replacement parts or of something else we could use in their place? We’re on a very tight budget and not the handiest of folks so any words of wisdom would be much appreciated! Thanks! 🙂

    • Carter
      October 14, 2015 at 11:09 pm

      Yes those brackets and the two,screws that hold each of those the headboard and footboard are indeed critical to supporting the skorva midbeam switch is also critical to the bed frames integrity. You should be able to get those pieces at your local ikea-assuming there is one near you. Another possibility that jst came to me is,aye someone has those parts on eBay. Might try there.

      Here’s anther site for parts http://www.swedishfurnitureparts.com

      • Amber
        October 15, 2015 at 10:57 am

        Lol, not what I was hoping to hear , but thanks so much for your reply! Well, the closest IKEA is 2 hours away and I checked that site and of course they don’t seem to have them… :/ I messaged the people who sold it to us and am really hoping they will find the pieces or be willing to take the bed back (I’m thinking both of those options are a long shot though 🙁 )

  52. Anna
    October 1, 2015 at 9:33 am

    Hi everyone –this is so helpful, thank you! We are thinking of the Hemnes king with mid beam and Luroy slats. Our mattress is tempurpedic and heavy. Anyone know how much weight the Hemnes frame + mid beam + Luroy will bear?

    • Carter
      October 1, 2015 at 10:53 am

      It probably should be ok,especially if the people sleeping on it aren’t extremely heavy. There might be a spec listing on the item description for the bed. Considering they are all using the same hardware,this should apply to any ikea bed. My guess is it should be just fine.

  53. Joanne
    September 25, 2015 at 9:42 am

    Was going to buy the brusali or brimmes queen bed and using our own slates and matress. Do we need anything else other than the bed frame?

    • Carter
      October 1, 2015 at 10:54 am

      Still need the skorva midbeam for support

  54. Cory
    September 21, 2015 at 6:23 am

    Carter thanks for this information. Just bought a twin Tarva. We wanted the Lonset slats but they were out is stock. We planned to go back for them next wee but thanks to you we are going with the Luroy instead. By the way, I was worried about the slats falling out due to the frame bowing out with weight, but now they come with two metal cross beams.

  55. Emilia
    September 11, 2015 at 6:56 am

    I would just like to say that your replies have been so helpful! I recently bought a bed (BRIMNES with storage) but I was not told when purchasing that I needed a slatted bed base. So now I’m going to order the Luroys slats but the ikea in the Netherlands do not have a queensized slatt available. My bed is 140×200 cm and I was told I should get two slatts (70×200 cm). I don;t have much options considering its either 90x200cm slatts or the 70X200 cm. Is it possible to combine 2 parts together?

    Thank you so much!

    • Carter
      September 11, 2015 at 4:13 pm

      Actually that is how the slats come. You
      Get the 70s as a pair and they are placed one set per side and butt against each other. The Skorva mid beam supports the slats in the middle

  56. lorrie
    September 6, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    Just bought a malm twin, still need a skorva for a twin?

    • Carter
      September 6, 2015 at 8:41 pm

      Skorvas are used in all ikea bed sizes but for a few models. All malm beds need one

  57. Nick
    September 3, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Hi, I’m looking at purchasing the Brusali bed frame, with the Luroy and the mid beam for it, but I’m worried my existing mattress will not fit in it, its a Beautyrest Recharge Plus Alayna Luxury Firm. Ikeas website says it fits mattress 79 1/2 by 59 7/8, according to the size of my mattress its 80×60. Will this be a major problem? A friend is giving me a hard time saying it will be, but I doubt it.

    • Carter
      September 3, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      i would guess that it isn’t going to be a problem, mattresses are not rigid so even if the dimensions were exactly that on both the mattress and inner measurements of the bed frame, it’d still wedge in there without much effort.

  58. Symonette
    September 1, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    Hi There! Just wanted to let you know that your replies are truly useful. Question, I will be purchasing a King size Hemnes tomorrow. I looked at other reviews on Youtube about this bed and I see that all lot of these beds broke in 2012. The ones Ikea are selling now, are they newer models? Where they recalled and changed for 2015? If so what have they changed? I purchased a King size mattress and box spring, I will be getting the slats and beam.
    Thank you for your useful insight! On a side note Ikea sales people really don’t know their product. They recommended that I didn’t get the slats:)

    • Carter
      September 3, 2015 at 2:58 pm

      I haven’t heard that about the hemnes beds. Considering they seem to use ‘real wood’ I can only imagine it was caused by poor quality kiln dried wood that most all manufacturers use these days. Wood today isn’t your grandpa’s wood.
      And yes, I have noticed that at least at the ikeas I have been to (in the US) the majority of employees seem to just be seat warmers showing up for a paycheck and have no solid knowledge of the company’s products. Stock tip – if Ikea was a public company, I would sell.

  59. Samantha
    August 28, 2015 at 11:59 am

    Hi! I am thinking about ordering the Brimnes bed with storage and I want to make sure the mattress I already have will fit or does it have to be an Ikea mattress? Also, should I get the Luroy or Lonset slats? the Lonset slats are more expensive but it doesn’t explain the difference between the two anywhere.

    Thanks so much!

    • Carter
      August 28, 2015 at 1:20 pm

      Different de in slats in the more expensive ones require assembly, the others are just laid in

  60. Sam
    August 28, 2015 at 11:57 am

    Hi I am thinking about buying the Brimnes bed with storage. I already have a full size mattress that is too comfortable to part with, do you know if any mattress will fit into the bed or does it have to be an Ikea mattress? Also I am not sure whether to get the Luroy on Lonset slats, the Lonset are more expensive.

    Thanks so much!!

    • Carter
      August 28, 2015 at 1:19 pm

      You can use any mattress. Get the Luroys

  61. karen
    August 27, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    Hi. Currently have a King mattress and boxspring. Planning to buy a Malm High (including cross beam and slats — Luroy as you recommend) with the four drawers.
    Question is, should we keep our boxspring, or should we just get rid of it since it’s not required with the slats?
    i.e. will it complicate installation or look weird or cause other problems?
    ≈also, in your opinion, is the Malm King a sturdy, well-made piece of furniture?

    • Carter
      August 27, 2015 at 7:04 pm

      Box spring -keep it if you like a really high bed otherwise dump it. I can’t really say any of ikea’s stuff is truly durable well made as I am more of a traditionalist preferring solid hardwoods over cheap veneer and particle board throw away furniture that appeals to our modern day throw away mentality.

  62. Carrie
    August 25, 2015 at 10:39 am

    I am looking to buy the Malm in Full Size with the 4 storage drawers and chosen Luroy as you suggested. Do I need to order the slats separately? Also, I have included the midbeam in my order as you suggested but do the instructions tell you how to install the bed with it if they don’t tell you to buy it in the first place? One more question….do you think I should go with a box spring or am I ok to forego it? Thank you so much!!

    • Carter
      August 25, 2015 at 12:16 pm

      The mid beam just drops in simple easy.
      Yes u new to order the slats as a separate purchase. Box spring is up to you take it or leave it.

  63. Kathy
    August 18, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Just bought my own king size mattress and box springs (2 single box springs) and bed rails. I am looking to buy an Ikea headboard and footboard only as i have the bed rails already. i dont need slats then do i?

    • Carter
      August 27, 2015 at 7:02 pm

      Yes u need slats

  64. Andy
    August 16, 2015 at 8:14 pm


    First of all thank you so much for all of the help it has saved our family tons of time and money.

    I recently purchased a MALM used and while it came with the middle support beam, it did not come with the diagonal support ones that extend from the headboard. Now even if it did come with those additional pieces, the part of the headboard they are supposed to connect does not have any extra holes or space to connect to. Should I be worried and invest in the additional support or is the middle beam + slats enough?

    Thank you!

    • Carter
      August 16, 2015 at 8:45 pm

      hmm… good question. the skinny cross beams are supposed to keep the bed frame square and not bulge the sides out. However, I imagine you could probably get away with not using them for a while, especially if there’s not a lot of weight on the bed. They each have 3 tiny machine screws – one attaches to a hole in the side rails, another on the metal piece that supports the mid beam and a 3rd goes into a hole on the metal strip about midways to maintain the tension of the strip.

      • Andy
        August 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm

        The metal piece that supports the mid beam on my unit’s headboard does not come with the extra metal holes to hold any skinny cross beams. It doesn’t look defective or anything just not made that way. Does that mean this is an older model that didn’t come with the cross beams?

  65. Des
    August 14, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    You are awesome!

    Thank you for sharing this info! Ikea is super confusing with their beds and the employees never seem very sure so I really appreciate you sharing this info! 😀

  66. SB
    August 12, 2015 at 10:18 am

    What is your opinion about the LEIRSUND slatted base? I am considering buying an IKEA bed with storage – either the Malm or Brusali. Would this base work? Can I place a regular spring mattress on this (planning to reuse my old mattress from the previous bed)?

  67. Julie S.
    August 8, 2015 at 3:35 am

    I have queen sized luroy slats but am thinking of downgrading to a full sized bed. Will the queen sized slats still fit a full sized frame? Thanks!

    • Carter
      August 8, 2015 at 11:48 am

      you could but you would need to shorten the length of all of them evenly because both sides would need to partially rest on the midbeam. unless you are handy with a rip saw or table saw, it’ll probably be easier to just buy new slats

  68. Margie
    July 31, 2015 at 7:20 am

    Same question as Greg. The screws provided for the diagonal braces are too thick to use on them. Will the side rails and mid dam be enough to support the slurpy slats?

  69. Frank
    July 25, 2015 at 5:36 am


    I just bought a Morgedal foam mattress. The ikea website suggests that the Morgedal pairs well with the Leirsund slats. These are significantly more
    expensive at my store (120 vs 30 for Luroy). Is there any reason why I should go for the Leirsund? Do you think the choice of slats can reduce/extend the mattresses’ life? Or, the difference in slats will only just change a bit how the whole things feels. Thanks.

    • Carter
      July 25, 2015 at 10:19 am

      Leroy are simple. No assembly required. Leirsund slats take time to put together but are supposed to offer more custom support – you’ll have to read reviews to see what people think of them. Neither will extend mattress life more than the other. Personally, I would just go with the Leroy for a lot of reasons. No assembly, cost, and the mattress should be comfy enough already..

      • Frank
        July 25, 2015 at 11:04 am

        Thank you

  70. Steve
    July 24, 2015 at 10:56 am

    I bought the Malm bed frame without the slats or center rod because we already had a box spring. The box spring has stayed in place without slipping through thanks to the diagonal braces. But because there is no support underneath the box spring, the wooden structure of the box spring has broken simply from getting on and off the bed.

    Now we are forced to buy the slats anyway and throw our box spring away.

  71. Greg
    July 21, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    Got this from a family member and have all the parts (including metal side rails and mid beam) except the 4 cross braces. Are these necessary or will the side rails, mid beam and slats be enough to support a mattress? Thanks

    • Carter
      July 21, 2015 at 2:25 pm

      All ikea bedframes need slats

      • Greg
        July 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm

        Yes, but how about the 4 cross braces that go diagonally from the side rails to the mid beam. Are they needed for support?

        • Tim
          April 20, 2017 at 12:09 pm

          I found the cross braces are needed. I have purchased a used Ekeberg bed (for $20!) and it they are missing. Figure something has to be at that price. The sides then push out, slats then follow, the mattress & then me.
          Annoying having to fix it all.

          • Carter
            July 12, 2017 at 10:47 pm

            yup – no fun – the bed was a bargain – the slats will set you back double that – but there are other options – if you have some spare 2x4s or other wood you could use instead and cut to fit – or even a sheet of plywood cut to fit (but definitely want a center beam skorva for that hack)

  72. jenn
    July 20, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    Hi, I’m looking into buying the Brimnes queen size w storage…what is the actual difference between the lonset and luroy? Not to be crude but I need a stronger bed…for “exercise” lol Which is sturdier? Also, how long do each take to put together?

    • Carter
      July 20, 2015 at 6:53 pm

      Lonset has to be assembled. The Leroy do not. Both are similar sturdiness. If u r worried about the frame holding up to being used as a trampoline then you probably shouldn’t be buying an ikea anything. 😉

  73. Julio
    July 11, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    I’m a bit confused… do the ikea bedframes accept box springs? I am thinking about buying the brusali queen and toss a Simmons mattress with box spring. The guy at the store seemed not sure. Based on the reading above, I am definitely buying the mid beam… but the sales guy said that if I use just the mattress I need the slats, but if I have the box spring then I can skip the slats… please advise

    • Carter
      July 11, 2015 at 6:06 pm

      The ikea employees are morons. Well not really morons but they do NOT know their product which I blame the lack of proper training and pride in the company. Just showing up for a paycheck mentality.
      After seeing firsthand what happens when you don’t use slats, I recommend box spring or not, ALWAYS use slats because the metal side rails that ikea uses are too narrow and most box springs are of a width that allows it to slip off one side or the other- usually occurring in the middle of the night. If your box spring fits so tight that it just barely fits, then you probably don’t need slats, but you won’t know until after you built the bed so why be cheap on $40-60 slats? Just get them. If not, and ikea is a long way off you can always use 1×4 or 1×6 boards cut to fit in leu of slats.
      Always need to skorva mid beam too.

      • Steve
        August 28, 2015 at 9:01 am

        The question I have related to this is – what does it LOOK like with the box springs and the shorter head board? Will it look ridiculous to stack a box spring and mattress with the headboard on BRUSALI?

        • Liz
          September 17, 2015 at 9:52 pm

          The sales people are telling you that the slats/midbeam aren’t necessary with a box spring, because they’re assuming your box spring will simply sit on the floor inside the “shell” of the frame. Which is fine, if you don’t want underbed storage and don’t mind your box spring being on the floor (and possibly seeing the box spring from the side / under the bed).

          If you want to get it up off the floor, you need the guts — side rails, midbeam, AND slats… you can set these high or low during assembly – go low if you’re including a box spring to save yourself an extra 2″ of height. You’ll have a really tall bed either way if you add the extra layer of a box spring with the bed’s support “guts”.

          • Carter
            September 21, 2015 at 9:42 pm

            Interesting they would come up with that rather odd explanation. But really no more ridiculous than the ikea directions thst show the slats as being optional yet still incorporating the skorva midbeam, side rails and cross straps for added rigidity.
            That is the first I have heard of that reasoning by an ikea employee and wonder if they weren’t just pranking you. A lot of box springs and mattresses wouldn’t even comeup over the side rails making the bed dangerous to knees and shins.

  74. Ryan
    July 8, 2015 at 8:48 am

    What is your opinion on the FJELL Queen Size Bedframe with storage. My wife and purchased on and was successful with Box 1 and then we moved on Box 2 and gave up after two hours of fiddling with it and not getting it right? Have you worked on this bed?

    • Carter
      July 8, 2015 at 12:00 pm

      Yes, I have done these. They are decent and the storage is nice. They are a bigger pita than most of them.

  75. Ada
    July 6, 2015 at 10:20 pm


    I’m buying the MALM High bed frame/4 storage boxes in white and i don’t know if i should pick lonset or luroy for the bed slats. A little help please!!

    • Carter
      July 6, 2015 at 10:22 pm

      just go with the luroy they’re fine and don’t require tedious assembly

  76. Alice
    July 5, 2015 at 11:39 pm

    Hi there,

    Do you have any thoughts on the quality of the Trysil bed frame from IKEA? I can’t find any good reviews on it, and am considering buying it in the next month or two.


    • Carter
      July 6, 2015 at 12:09 am

      Can’t say as I have never assembled one before. I would probably put soe stock in the reviews- at least the ones that are well written and seemingly honest.

      • Jan
        August 19, 2016 at 7:06 am

        My son has the Trysil bed frame and we love the look of it, however the metal on the footboard legs has bent pushing the frame out of alignment, I cant find anywhere to fix it or buy a new part. Hes now sleeping on the mattress on the floor as I cant find the receipt to take it back. I would gladly pay for a new part as we love the frame. Dont know if its a faulty part.

        • Carter
          December 16, 2016 at 12:11 pm

          IKEA doesn’t usually have spare parts other than hardware That said if it has t been too long you might be able to exchange the bed for another. You’d have to check with ikeas return policy

  77. July 3, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    I am going to order a bedframe for my full size bed but I wanted to know what the difference was between lonset and Luroy?

    • Carter
      July 3, 2015 at 9:00 pm

      Go with Leroy. Unless you want to spend 15-90 minutes assembling lonset slats depending on skill.

  78. Diana
    June 29, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    I just bought a king size mattress with box spring (2 twin size box springs) and I’m planning on buying the brimnes bed frame. Do I need to buy slats and which type, or since I basically have two independent box springs will they rest safely on the side rails and mid beam? I know I could just put the mattress on the slats, but I’m trying to keep the spring boxes for future use. Thanks

    • Carter
      June 29, 2015 at 10:15 pm

      No you will still want slats because the side rails are very thin and sooner or later the box springs will slip off one side most likely in the middle of the night when u are fast asleep.

  79. Deb
    June 29, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    Hi there,

    I am looking at this bed – http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/S09007554/#/S09007554

    And it appears to come with a metal midbeam and a choice of luroy or lonset slatted bed base (as part of buying the bed). According to what I’ve read here, I should be good right? I won’t need to buy anything else?

    • Carter
      June 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm

      IF you buy it online, they throw in the $10 Skorva metal midbeam as part of the price. If you buy it in the store, you have to pay the extra. Also, the bed is going to have 2 or 3 boxes, then there’s the slats – there will be two piles of wood – one for each side of the bed, and of course, the metal midbeam is by itself and not in a box. So just take your time and make sure you have all the bits and you should be good.

  80. Claudia
    June 21, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    im about to buy the Brusali bed frame (without storage) with the luroy slats. Is the mid-beam really necessary? beaucause i’m on a budget to be honest(i’m a student). I don’t count on jumping on the bed nor having rough sex on it.

    Thanks for this article, they really should explain the difference between the slats on their website.

    • Carter
      June 21, 2015 at 9:18 pm

      Yes, You HAVE to have a mid beam – the slats rest on it. The mid beam is only $10. I can’t tell you how many times people forgot to pick that part up making their bed useless until they got one. It doesn’t matter what kind of sex you have on it, things would go badly very fast.

      you might find this story amusing on why it’s a bad idea to skimp on the cheapest part of the bed….

  81. Lola
    June 19, 2015 at 3:45 pm


    I am going to get the Brusali to replace my old Dalselv. I’m staying with the same size, so do you happen to know if I need new slats, or can I just use the ones that I’ve been usingon my Dalselv. My bed is still in really good condition, I’m just changing the decor.

    Thanks so much! 🙂

    • Carter
      June 21, 2015 at 9:13 pm

      yes, slats are interchangeable across the beds… so long as you are going from a full to a full or a queen to a queen…etc

      • Lola
        June 26, 2015 at 5:25 pm

        Thank you! I was hoping that was the case. 🙂

  82. S.C.
    May 30, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    I am thinking about purchasing the Hemnes King-size bed from Ikea and plan on putting a Tempurpedic mattress and foundation on the bed. Which bedframe/slats would you recommend? Definitely would get the mid-beam 🙂

    • Carter
      June 2, 2015 at 11:54 pm

      You HAVE to get the mid-beam 😉 As far as slats go, I would stick with the basics – which now are the leroy I believe as I think the LADE are now only available for children size beds. You could also fabricate your own using 1x4s or 1x6s if you are handy, although you might end up spending more than the $40 a set of leroy will cost you.

  83. pg
    April 28, 2015 at 9:51 am

    On way to ikea, fir yes, the mid beam!! at last my bed will be complete!
    Not having meatballs!!
    Not having meatballs!!

    • Carter
      April 28, 2015 at 6:17 pm


  84. Fawzi
    April 16, 2015 at 2:21 am

    Hi There,

    I just bought a Brusali bed frame and picked up the mid beam as well. I came home and assembled the bed only to find out that I was missing the metal cross brace (item # 177228). Now when I put the mattress on the bed it sinks on both the left and right side. Should the cross brace have come inside the packaging or is this sold separately? I was told two pick up the two boxes for the frame and the mid beam at the store…nothing else. I’m confused and frustrated!



    • Carter
      April 16, 2015 at 7:48 pm

      Hi – Ikea items that come in multiple boxes are individually numbered, 1, 2, 3 etc. However, they don’t label them as they should – like 1 of 3, 2 of 3, etc… That would eliminate the amibguity of how many boxes make up an item.
      The Brusali bed is basically like every other Ikea bed. You have to buy a mid beam separately (along with wooden slats – a must even with a box spring – don’t believe what the misinformed employees might say otherwise.)
      It sounds like for some reason your bed was missing the metal side rails – each side takes 8 to 10 screws to hold in place. there are also 4 flimsy cross members that screw to the sides and ends with tiny machine screws for additional rigidity. Your bed frame needs these parts in order to work right.

      • Frank
        October 18, 2015 at 10:26 am

        Hi there,

        I built the Brusali bed without slats. I have a box spring. Unfortunately, the cross members have broken – they are way too flimsy. Now, the right side of my footboard is coming undone because the the bed is pushing against the frame. Essentially, my box spring is resting on top of my underbed drawers. My bed is sagging. How can I get my bed back to normal again?

        Can I simply get rid of the cross-members and add slats on top of the midbeam? Or do I need to get new cross-members?

  85. Neha
    March 20, 2015 at 1:22 pm


    Do you know if I can use the Luroy bed slats in Queen size (Article Number: 001.602.15) with the MALM Storage bed in Queen size (Article Number: 402.498.81)?

    • Carter
      March 20, 2015 at 6:07 pm

      Did you buy this used and it’s missing the slats? IF you are buying this new, the slats for the frame are already included. I am not for sure, but I bet the luroy slats would fit if a slat was broken. If they were too long, you could easily trim off a little on each end to fit. *ikea hack*

  86. Allara
    March 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    I am thinking of buying a BRUSALI bed frame. I was wondering what is your opinion about BRUSALI bed frame compared to MALM. Is Luroy or Lonset slat better for mattress only use without boxspring?

    • Carter
      March 10, 2015 at 12:01 am

      Hi Allara,
      The Brusali bed frame is a newer item although the malm with drawers is fairly new desigfor that line. There isn’te much difference between them other than the malm has four drawers of the same size and the Brusali has short/long pairs.
      Lo set slats are renamed lax by slats by the looks of them- the website link for assembling is broken but I imagine it’s still a nightmare to it them together- refer to my commentary on those beasts. Short answer, I would go with the Luroys every time. Feedback from customers who’ve used the laxby’s said they didn’t think they were much better.

  87. Erin
    February 9, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    Thank you! This is very helpful. Ikea has NO information about what these swedish terms mean on the site. It’s very confusing. All you know is that there is a price difference between the 2.